Episode 407: The 5 Stages of Healing: From Hyper-Vigilance to Trusting Your Bod
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Transcending chronic symptoms, reclaiming your vitality, and no longer making your health your whole personality? That’s exactly what this episode is about. Erin is breaking down the five stages of healing, and the EXACT patterns her clients go through before they feel free in their bodies.
Erin gets into the nocebo effect, health hyper-vigilance, the medicine spiral, and the kind of inner work that will move you into a new identity. She also connects the dots between how your brain processes labels, how fear and focus can reinforce symptoms, and why so many people stay stuck in loops even when they’re doing “all the right things.”
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In this episode:
Erin’s favorite stage of healing (Stage 4) and why the real work happens there
Our cultural obsession with labels, and why getting a diagnosis can feel like “sweet relief”
How the medicine spiral creates deeper healing every time you move through it
The identity shift that allows you to stop constantly monitoring your body and finally feel free in it
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Erin Holt:
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Erin Holt:
You've tried things, you've run labs, you've worked with practitioners, and you're still sitting here like, why doesn't my body feel better yet? That's actually the exact person we work with Inside our one to one care. You are not doing anything wrong. It's just that no one has really put the full picture together for you. Inside our one to one functional care method. We look at everything together. Your gut, your hormones, your nutrient status, your nervous system, your history. We don't see them as separate issues, but as one connected story, because it is. And then we help you actually work through that with real support, ongoing guidance, adjustments, and helping you understand what your body is doing and why.
Erin Holt:
Our goal isn't to just help you feel a little bit better for a few months. It's to actually create something that lasts. We don't go for 90% better, we keep it 100. So if you are dealing with chronic symptoms, gut issues, hormone imbalances, autoimmunity, and you feel like you've tried everything, I really do get it. And at the same time, I'll say this. When we work with someone like you, it's very rare that we don't find what's missing, because that's what we do. We're a team of highly skilled practitioners working on complex cases every single day. You are not doing this alone.
Erin Holt:
You have ongoing support, messaging, access to your practitioner, monthly appointments, where we're looking at your progress, your labs, what's working and what's not, and actually adjusting those things in real time so we can find what works for your body. You can apply to work with us through the link in the show notes and our team will take a look and guide you from there. I am someone who sought to understand for a long, long, long, long time. I wanted to know what was going on with my body. I didn't believe my doctors when they said, nothing's wrong. It's all in your head. You're just a hypochondriac. That didn't feel true to me.
Erin Holt:
So I. I finally did get a label. I finally did get a autoimmune diagnosis in the second that I got it. Do you want to know what it felt like? It felt like sweet relief. It felt like vindication. It felt like validation. It gave me context to this weird thing that I had been experiencing that nobody could name. It finally got named when I had been gaslit for so long, when I had been confused for so long.
Erin Holt:
It finally gave me answers. And that created safety in me. Welcome to the functional nutrition podcast, spelled with a K, because we do things a little differently around here. I'm your host, Erin Holt, and I've got 15 years of clinical experience as a functional nutritionist and mindset coach, creating a new model that I call intuitive functional medicine, where we combine root cause medicine with the innate intelligence of your body. This is where science meets self trust. Your body already knows how to heal and this show is going to show you how. If you're looking for new ways of thinking about your health, be sure to follow and share with a friend because you never know whose life you might change. If you are looking to transcend your current health situation, your current state of health, today's episode is for you.
Erin Holt:
I am outlining the five stages of healing, which is a pattern that I've seen not just in myself, but in many of our clients, both one on one clients and manifest your health. Clients that have been able to transcend chronic illness, chronic symptoms, ongoing mystery health syndromes, and really reclaim their life, really reestablish their vitality, their vibrancy, and stop making their health their whole world. And that might sound like a real luxury and it is. When you step into this stage of healing, it absolutely feels like that too. But what I want you to know and understand that this is available to you as well. And I want to talk through how. Last week we had a post on Instagram get a lot of traction and it was all about me putting autoimmunity into remission. And people want to know how.
Erin Holt:
They want to know how they can do that. And today I'm going to share with you the how. What I'm not going to get into is specific protocols and lab testing and all of that, because what I'm going to share with you actually transcends all of that. This is like the heavy hitting stuff. It's probably an episode that you're going to want to listen to a few times over. You definitely want to listen all the way, way through to the end. If you are currently struggling in what you feel like is a before state and you're looking at other people at their after states and you're like, how do I get from here to there? This is the roadmap for how to do it. So let's get into it.
Erin Holt:
The first stage is what I label symptoms in seeking. So this is where you have a lot of unexplained symptoms going on and you're reasonably seeking answers to those unexplained symptoms. You're searching for why you feel this way and what you can do about it. There might be some medical gaps, gaslighting going on where you've gone to a lot of doctors, you've gone to a lot of practitioners, and they're like, hey, your labs look normal, nothing to see here. I don't really know how to explain what's going on with you. You start to wonder and worry, like, am I a hypochondriac? Am I just highly sensitive? Is there anything really going on here? And I know this stage very well because I lived in this stage for years and years. There was a lot of confusion, there was a lot of frustration. There's a lot of frustration with myself and my body.
Erin Holt:
There's a lot of shame. But there was also a lot of frustration with the medical system too, that could not seem to figure out the puzzle piece that was me and was my health. Now, probably some of you that listen to the show listen to the show because you are in this stage. You are listening to the show because you're actively looking for answers and actively looking for solutions. And that is a beautiful thing. But because we're all so familiar with this stage, and because I have eight years of podcasting kind of dedicated to this stage, I'm not going to spend too much time there. Like, I think we all kind of get that, we get that concept. So let's jump to the second stage, which is labels.
Erin Holt:
So this is the stage in healing where you've been through the first stage and now you have received a label or a diagnosis, or you've even given yourself a label. So you might have received a diagnosis through a doctor, a practitioner, or through learning from the online wellness space, either You've been labeled or diagnosed with something, or you've labeled yourself based on a set of symptoms. In what you've learned, the information that you've gleaned, you're like, hey, this sounds like me. So examples of labels could be sibo, histamine issues, sirs, mold illness, autoimmunity. This is the stage where someone can go from being health curious. Like, you just want to learn a little bit more about your health. You're curious about your health and how to improve it, how to get better, how do you solve some of your symptoms? So you can go from being health curious into health hypervigilance, or what I call health xiety. And this can happen pretty quickly.
Erin Holt:
So these are some examples of what health anxiety or health hypervigilance looks like. You often overanalyze your symptoms. You try to figure out what caused them. You feel anxious if you don't have a clear explanation for how you're feeling. You frequently search online for answers. When something feels off, you might feel safer. When you're doing something, whether that's researching or testing or fixing, you find yourself constantly monitoring your body for signs that something might be wrong. You feel like you're always on high alert about what might trigger a flare or a reaction.
Erin Holt:
You struggle to trust your body, even when things seem okay. When you do feel okay, you worry that it won't last, or you feel like you're waiting for the other shoe to drop. You might feel like you're trapped in a loop of fear, worry, or overthinking about your health. And you might feel like you have to stay one step ahead of your symptoms. So that health hypervigilance is a stage where people can get really trapped in. And you probably come by this honestly. So if you've been slapped with a diagnosis or slapped with a label, whether that was somebody else that put it on you or you put it on you, there can be a lot of fear associated with that. So of course it makes sense that you want to stay a few steps ahead of your body, a few steps ahead of your symptoms, a few steps ahead of this condition.
Erin Holt:
Right. It makes sense. Sense why we get here, but sometimes once we get here, we stay trapped here. And as much as I love health information, I do, obviously I have a podcast dedicated to what health information. As much as I love it, I can really appreciate what Dr. Lissa Rankin says here. Excessive knowledge about what can go wrong with the body can actually harm you. The more you focus on the infinite ways in which the body can break down the more likely you are to experience physical symptoms.
Erin Holt:
So we all know about the placebo effect. What you believe, what you're told about something can impact the physical reactions you have to that thing. But there's also something called the nocebo effect, which is just as real as the placebo effect, where someone can experience a negative outcome based on what they're told. So what people are told about their condition and their potential to heal can really dramatically influence that. So you have to think about the type of information that is coming into you, whether it's through a doctor or a health practitioner or social media. Because what you're told about this label that you've put on yourself or you've received can absolutely affect your potential to heal. So if you're told that you have a chronic incurable illness, that can program your subconscious mind, that can program your ability to heal, that can become your new belief, your new truth, the new program that runs everything. So when somebody is labeled with a negative prognosis, the power of suggestion, the power of belief, can actually prove the poor prognosis true.
Erin Holt:
And there's countless examples of this being real. What people hear about their condition is critical to how they heal. And this is something that we have to be careful with both online. But even if you're working with a practitioner, and yes, this includes functional medicine, functional medicine labs can absolutely create on ramps for healing, healing opportunities. That's why we use them regularly in our one to one practice. But they also have the potential to reinforce old destructive thought patterns and unintentionally feed into more harmful narratives. The more tests you run, the more things that you can find wrong. So if you already feel like there's so many things that could be wrong with your body at any possible moment, and then all of a sudden you have somebody showing you labs, showing you actual data that, yep, this is true.
Erin Holt:
Look at all these bad things. Look at all these wrong things. Look at all these harmful things that are happening in your body. Yikes. We have a problem. The more tests we run, the more labels can be placed on you. So let's talk about the potential problem with labels. We are kind of culturally obsessed with with labels.
Erin Holt:
And as it relates to health and wellness, we have so much information coming at us from all over the place. The online wellness space being the biggest one. There's no shortage of labels to apply to ourselves these days. Now, in certain situations, this can be extremely useful because it can give us some understanding about what's going on in our bodies, what's happening with our symptoms. And that can feel really good. Understanding ourselves better can feel really good. But we have to be so, so, so, so, so careful about labels that ourselves, whether that's nervous system dysregulation or perimenopause or mcas or histamine intolerance. Now it makes good sense why we want to do this.
Erin Holt:
Our brain loves to put things in categories. It loves labels. It seeks to understand and to slot things into certain buckets. But the brain also seeks to predict. The brain is a predictive machine, and it predicts what is going to happen next based on what has already happened, based on the past, based on past experiences, and based on current beliefs. So when you attach a label or a diagnosis to yourself, that is telling the brain to go seek out more evidence that this is true. So the second you say, for example, I have a chronic illness or I am someone who struggles with a chronic illness, the brain is going to seek out evidence to back that up. Every symptom or sensation you experience, experience.
Erin Holt:
You're going to be putting that in the bucket of, yup, this is chronic illness. All right. This is proof positive. I've got that chronic illness. And to be crystal clear, I'm not saying that any of these things are not real. They're all very, very, very real. I am someone who sought to understand for a long, long, long, long time. I wanted to know what was going on with my body.
Erin Holt:
I didn't believe my doctors when they said, nothing's wrong. It's a all in your head. You're just a hypochondriac. That didn't feel true to me. So I finally did get a label. I finally did get a autoimmune diagnosis in the second that I got it. Do you want to know what it felt like? It felt like sweet relief. It felt like vindication.
Erin Holt:
It felt like validation. It gave me context to this weird thing that I had been experiencing that nobody could name. It finally got named. When I had been gaslit for so long, when I had been confused for so long, it finally gave me answers. And that created safety in me. So the symptoms were real, the condition and the diagnosis were real. And the safety that that label created inside me was also real. And that felt like a healing in and of itself.
Erin Holt:
And that's why you'll hear me say, if someone is quote, unquote, lucky enough to actually receive a diagnosis, it can feel like validation after years of searching for answers. So I'm not saying that labels or diagnoses are bad or wrong or not useful or not real. But what can happen, what is also real is that someone can attach their identity to their chronic condition in the thing that once validated us, can actually limit our healing potential. Because once you put a label on yourself and you identify with that label, I am someone who it becomes really hard to break out of that or to transcend that identity. It becomes very difficult to outperform your own self identity just based on how the brain and the nervous system and the subconscious mind works. So once I attached that label to me, everything that I experienced got run through the filter of I have this autoimmune condition. So whether it was a sneeze or a sniffle or a body ache or a headache, anything that I experienced, it went into the bucket of collecting evidence that something bad is happening inside of me. Autoimmunity is self attack.
Erin Holt:
My body is attacking itself. That became a very scary proposition and that created more fear in my body, in the constant fear, the constant stress chemistry that comes along with fear based thinking and fear based thoughts that actually creates more symptoms. So it became this vicious cycle that I could not break myself out of. And I lived like that for a while. And eventually that stopped feeling safe, it stopped feeling like sweet relief, it stopped feeling like vindication. It felt like a jacket that I could no longer fit inside a too tight jacket. And that's when I knew I was ready for something else. So I've long made fun of the gummies as supplements trend.
Erin Holt:
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Erin Holt:
And that brings us to the third stage, which is the turning point. This is where you realize this label no longer fits and not everybody gets here. To be clear, stage two is where a lot of people can stay stuck. The purpose of this episode is if you're in stage two, I want you to know you don't have to stay stuck there. There actually is another option for you. So here's how to know if you are in stage three. If you're at the turning point. And I'm going to quote my pal who's a license clinical social worker, Astrid Schmidt.
Erin Holt:
She said, if your label or your diagnosis makes you feel hopeful, expansive, accepted, alive, in like, there's room for growth, go with it. But if it makes you feel inhibited, limited, stuck, this is me forever, and I will never change. This is my life sentence. Then don't go with it. There's more. Now, you might notice, like I did, that it started in one place. Maybe that label felt hopeful, felt expansive. You felt more accepted, you felt more alive, like there's opportunity for growth.
Erin Holt:
But then it shifted over into feeling limited, stuck. This is me forever. I will never be able to change. I will never be able to break out of this. If you're there, that is the moment that you get to decide there's actually more for me here. That was the moment that I was like, I actually don't want to live like this anymore. And there can be such beauty in desperation because you're so open to possibility. It is kind of like a, you know what, fuck it, I'll try anything moment.
Erin Holt:
And I think that that can be a really catalytic and beautiful moment. It was that moment for me where I was like, I am willing to see this in a new way, God, universe, source, show me another way. And this might actually be a spiritual experience for you, but there's also a real neurobiological basis for this where you're instructing your mind to search for and find evidence of other possibilities. It was at this exact moment when I crossed paths with someone I had not seen in years. It was like a true serendipitous moment. And I map out that story in episode 258 of the podcast. It's called using manifestation to heal your body, if you want to check that out. But basically, I ran into this woman I hadn't seen in years.
Erin Holt:
She started to talk to me out of nowhere about law of attraction, manifestation, and co creating my reality. And it changed everything. At that point, the pump was primed for me to see things in another way. Because I was at this phase. I was at this stage of healing. I was ready. I'd gotten to a point where I just didn't want anyone to put any more limitations on me about my health and about my ability to heal. I didn't want any more fear based narratives.
Erin Holt:
I didn't want for anyone to tell me what my experience had to be. I was seeking out limitless possibility. And because I was actively seeking out, I got it. A few weeks ago I released a conversation. It's episode 404 and it was a conversation with a Manifest your Health case study, Emily Markham. And she shared her story about this exact moment in her life. She had received a diagnosis of sirs and she said I was not feeling empowered that I was going to have a life that I wanted to live. I was really struggling with accepting my diagnosis because I was having a hard time accepting the prognosis that comes along with it.
Erin Holt:
The hypervigilance, the constant scanning of my environment, not being able to travel, not being able to feel safe visiting my friends and family, family, not being able to go to a grocery store. My life was starting to feel really small and like it was getting smaller. It was a life sentence kind of feeling. I felt like I wasn't allowed to separate the diagnosis from the prognosis, what they told me my life was going to look like. And she referred to it as divine timing. When she found the Manifest yout Health podcast series, it came out at that exact time and she said I was able to tap into something different in that is what allowed her to see this can be the diagnosis. But this doesn't have to be my story. I can accept the diagnosis.
Erin Holt:
I don't have to accept the narrative in the storyline that goes along with it. And you have the power. Just like I had this power, just like Emily had this power, you also have the power and the agency to choose this for yourself. That's up to you. You can do it. And when you're at that point, you're so ready for the next stage. In the fourth stage, perhaps my favorite the fourth stage is the work, which is not to suggest everything you've done up until this point hasn't been work or hasn't been effortful. But this is just more of the inner work, the deeper work.
Erin Holt:
I polled my audience and I asked how many of you feel like you're starting to understand that there is a link your Physical health and your emotions, thoughts, beliefs and past experiences. But you're not really sure what to do with that information. Like where do I start, what do I do? Where do I go from here? How do I actually use this information to resolve some of these issues and feel better. When I asked people where they were on that spectrum, only 3% were not aware of this connection, which is good. I think that's a good sign. 8% were aware and they were already healed, which is amazing. But a whopping 88% said, I'm aware of this connection, but I have no idea how to do it. How do I actually bridge the gap between the turning point, stage three, and then the new identity of not having this health experience anymore? Stage 5, that how is the work? Or it's what I like to call the medicine spiral, where we spiral down to receive the medicine so that we can spiral back up.
Erin Holt:
And this is actually what we do. Inside Manifest yout Health. Inside the membership, there's a structured five phase brain body framework. And it integrates a lot of different modalities. Systems biology, neuroscience, nervous system regulation and repatterning, subconscious rewiring, emotional processing, inner child healing, parts integration, energy work. It's not one method we use, it's many methods and modalities blended together in one integration integrated system. We all know that healing is not linear, but it is sporadic. And we can understand that concept cognitively that healing is not linear.
Erin Holt:
But there's a difference between cognitive understanding and then your body and your nervous system actually being okay with that truth. So just dropping somebody into a spiral when there's already some degree of dysregulation or hypervigilance, that's rarely effective, like good luck, good luck in your spiral. And that is why Manifest your health is built out as a path, as a framework, as a five phase framework that you can actually follow. But what we've found is that those that double back on the framework and repeat it, particularly phase three, four, five, they get the most benefits, they get the most results. That is what we've consistently seen. And so yes, we've built out a framework that, that is easy to follow, that establishes safety within your nervous system. But you can also allow yourself to access the medicine spiral where you go down and you get some medicine and then you come back up and then you go down again and you get some more medicine and you come back up. And each and every time you do that, each time you repeat that spiral, you access higher and higher and higher levels of healing, Health, resilience, growth vitality, vibrancy and expansion and that is what brings you into stage five.
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Erin Holt:
After you purchase, they'll ask where you heard about them. Please support our show and tell them we sent ya in the fifth stage is the new identity. So I used to think of myself as someone with chronic illness. I used to think of myself as someone with autoimmunity. I used to think of myself as someone who was highly sensitive to foods, to toxins, to fragrances, to situations to change, to travel. I used to think of myself as somebody who had to be hyper protective of these things because if I wasn't, I was going to get sick, I was going to get a flare up. I used to have to be very, very very controlling of my environment because of my identity, which is I am someone with a chronic illness. And here's the truth, I just do not see myself that way anymore.
Erin Holt:
And that can be sometimes difficult to explain because it seems overly simplified. Like all you have to do is change your identity. And that's really why I wanted episode 404 that conversation with Emily Markham From Symptom Obsession to Freedom in your Body A Manifest yout Health Case Study Because I wanted to paint a picture, a whole story arc of what that process actually looks like in something she said right at the top of the conversation I had with her is Today I can confidently say that my chronic health challenges of six to seven years no longer cross my mind. Full stop. I no longer spend time thinking, worrying, stressing about my health, which is something that I used to spend 80 to 90% of my day thinking about or actively working on. And I can definitely say that Manifest yout Health helped me get there. This is an identity shift and it is the identity shift that allows us to see symptoms and conditions go into remission. We have have countless testimonials saying this.
Erin Holt:
Real physiological shifts that could be tracked on labs, meds that need to be altered. Doctors telling their patients, I don't know what you're doing, but keep doing it because everything looks great now. Dr. Jeffrey Rediger studied spontaneous healing. So he looked at a lot of different patients and people who had, quote, unquote, spontaneously healed. And he looked for patterns. What he said was this, perhaps the biggest and most crucial change was to their very identities, changing their relationship with themselves and with the world. So identity says, this is who I am.
Erin Holt:
It is our mental blueprint of ourselves. It's our own perception of the sort of person we are. Your identity is narrative. It's the story that you tell yourself about yourself, but it's, but it's also neurobiological. We have a network of brain regions that reinforce this identity. And it's called the Default Mode network, or the dmn. It is the neurobiological basis of the self. It's who you are, it's the narrator in your head that creates your sense of identity, that stitches together your past, your present and your future into one continuous story.
Erin Holt:
And once it encodes who you are, it will do anything to keep you consistent with that identity, even if it's disempowering. Gabor Matei says, the world we believe in becomes the world we live in. Our beliefs are not only self fulfilling, they are world building. So if you've ever felt like no matter how much you try to change, you always end up back in the same story, that is your DMN in action. And hopefully this is starting to make more sense. Why we have to transcend stage two, why that is a crucial component to this healing process and why labels can oftentimes be so problematic. Because labels can become identity. Not always, not all the time, but if it does, it's no longer just about healing your body, it's about changing your identity.
Erin Holt:
So that your body can shift your identity or your self image defines what you can do in what you cannot do. Your circumstances and what you feel is possible for you is actually predicated on this. And this is why if we want to radically change what is possible for us, if we want to change our circumstances, and yes, potentially, if we want to shift our health and get out of a chronic symptom loop, we have to shift on an identity level. This is gonna be weird, but hear me out. I almost think about it like a fecal transplant. But instead of transplanting poop to shift the microbiome, we're transplanting the way you see yourself. Your thoughts, your beliefs, your programs, your patterns. And in my experience, you do need to get through the fourth stage in order to get here.
Erin Holt:
It's through the work, it's through the medicine spiral that allows for this, this transplant to actually happen, to actually take hold. So if this is what you're looking to do, if these are the outcomes you're looking for, that's what we're doing in the Manifest yout Health membership. It's why I built it for all of y'. All. It's a neuroscience backed membership that allows you to reconnect with your body's natural ability to heal. Because here's the truth. You are living in a body that knows how to heal. You are living in a body that is designed to heal.
Erin Holt:
You might not be conscious of that truth yet, that's okay. But you can make space for that to become a reality. And Manifest yout Health helps you find this truth. It gives you the opportunity to continuously plug back into this truth, to anchor back into this truth. Healing does not happen outside of us. It happens within. Manifest your Health gives you the tools to go within the membership in the app is officially open. We've got a founders rate going on right now.
Erin Holt:
It's a discounted rate of only 49amonth. That's going to be available just for a couple of weeks. So get yourself signed up, get yourself in the app. I cannot wait to see you there and I cannot wait to see your transformations. It is going to be magic. Thanks for joining me for this episode of the Functional Nutrition Podcast. Please keep in mind this podcast is created for educational purposes only and should never be used as a replacement for medical diagnosis or treatment. If you got something from today's show, don't forget, subscribe, leave a review, share with a friend, and keep coming back for more.
Erin Holt:
Take care of you.